The Pagoda and The Guide

The Guide - Pagoda front cover

The Guide Magazine has a front cover splash this week about the Blackheath Pagoda.  It goes over many aspects of the Pagoda, except how much it is on the market for.

Terrible flash-driven magazine website here (it’s on page 24)

Kershaws estate agents are selling it, but on their website it’s only listed as £POA.

If anyone finds out what the actual price is, do let us know. I tried, but failed…

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18 responses to “The Pagoda and The Guide

  1. Rupert Fiennes

    If you have to ask….I’ll guess at 6 million?

    • anon2

      It is on for GBP 3.85m!!!! How ridiculous is that. Thanks to their land-grabbing get-rick-quick scheme the current owners of the Pagoda has left it with a tiny garden. Who would want to pay that sum of money whilst over-looking the current owners counting up their pickings every night?

  2. Jessica

    The telegraph did a surprisingly similiar article in 2008 that valued the property at 3.5-4million. Given the recession and only slow growth of blackheath property I don’t think it would be much more then this now.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/3360193/Listed-property-Wreck-and-ruin-Yes-please.html

  3. anonymous123

    I note that the article says the Pagoda fell into disuse and disrepair and was purchased by the Council after WWII. However, in the mid 1940s I was at school with a girl whose mother was the caretaker there and I was lucky enough to be invited inside and shown around. I don’t remember it looking as though it was very neglected – just empty and my friend’s mother kept it clean. I remember a fireplace in one of the main rooms with a painting of Queen Caroline incorporated into it. I also remember being shown the entrance to a ‘secret’ tunnel under the Heath, reputed to have led to Queen Caroline’s lover’s house – I think it was called The Red House but have never known where that was.

  4. Anonymous

    A few months after its sold anyone can find out the sold price on free websites , eg zoopla .
    Or are you looking to put a cheeky offer in ….

  5. Anonymous

    The problem is the new build monstrosity house that is being built in its grounds

  6. Gina Raggett

    I know I’m echoing the views of many, not just local residents, when I say how very sorry we are to have witnessed the destruction of the setting of The Pagoda, a local landmark for which most of us feel great affection. No fewer than 59 letters of objection were received by Lewisham council to the proposal to build a new house in the Pagoda’s garden, with not a single one in favour. For the record, the Blackheath Society initially opposed the application (check out their Spring 2010 Newsletter online), as did the Lewisham Amenity Societies Panel on which the Society is represented.

    For once, Lewisham council actually did a right thing and refused planning consent on 3 June 2010. The applicants then went to appeal, this time with the support of the Blackheath Society whose volte-face was sudden, unexplained and contrary to the wishes of many of its members. Seemingly, HM Inspectors see nothing wrong in garden-grabbing and the appeal was allowed.

    No doubt the present “new build monstrosity” will look a little better once the cladding has been applied but this doesn’t alter the fact that the once splendid garden, so carefully designed to complement the building’s architecture, has been irretrievably lost. Don’t even get me started on the mud, noise, blocked roads and other inconveniences which have been foisted on local residents over the past 8 months without consideration or apology.

    Anyone wanting to see what the finished “eco pavilion” might look like only has to google those words to find out. I say “might”, because the structure already looks a lot bigger in the flesh than it appears on the plans and will surely block much light to the Pagoda’s south-facing ground floor. I hope the buyers of the Pagoda will be a family, but given the loss of the garden, who can say.

  7. Gina Raggett

    The thing is, Anonymous, the Pagoda is Grade II* listed. For this reason alone, the loss of its setting has to be a cause for concern. What I don’t think any of us need be too concerned about is the owners’ pockets. They stand to do very nicely indeed out of the sale of the Pagoda – good for them, they’ve done a lovely job – and even better when the newbuild is sold in due course. As for winning prizes, isn’t that what “godawful” buildings (your words, not mine) are for?

  8. verylocal

    But i guess the only upside, is that Morrisons will be in the garden…. It looks like a cheap pre fab supermarket, The roof what is that about. The utter mess and on going construction site.
    2 houses with no garden. = NOT SOLD

  9. I have the distinction, if it could be called that, of living there in around 1958 for nearly a year when it was used as a home for children. It was run by ‘uncle’ Harry Blackwell (I believe a part-time priest at All Saints Church on Blackheath itself) and ‘auntie’ Roda. I understand they both retired to Westcliff-on-Sea soon after I moved on.

    Although we were terrified of the prospect of it, we were told there was a secrete tunnel that ran from the back kitchen to “Lover’s Lane,” which is actually nearby Heath Lane. Interestingly, if you look carefully at many designs of blue Pagoda dinner plates, it marvels the one in Blackhealth perfectly, with its close resemblance of the house, water (pond) with a little hump bridge, nicely laid out garden and some plates will even show the entrance to the underground ‘tunnel’! I hold many fond memories of the place until they started to build houses around it.

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